bream roach hybrid?

[birdman]

Caught this on bread flake on my local river, Have most species in the river , Carp,Roach,Rudd,Bream,Dace,Tench .

 

He was a nice fish weighing in at 4lb. It cant be a pure Roach at that weight, my bet would be on a roach/Bream hybrid. If anyone could let me know what they recon , would be grateful.

 

Thanks

 

 

C

[zedhead]

definately a hybrid, look at the anal fin for example. Id say it was more bream than roach if it is a hybrid, but its definately not a roach.

Still at 4lbs hybrids fight like stink so a good catch all the same.

[Barry C]

Dont know all the identification points but your fish shure looks to have a lot of bream in it. Nice fish though and ime sure you would love a few more.

[Vagabond]

Looks very like a rudd-bream hybrid - look at that golden sheen.

 

Rudd-bream used to be very common in Ireland in the 60s, and I also caught several from a lake near Toddington.

 

The Toddington fish were definitely rudd-bream, as I took two of them into the British Musuem of Natural History for a full examination and the identity was comfirmed by a couple of chaps there, one of whom dissected one of the fish on the spot.

 

The other fish went (whole) into a jar of formalin - probably still in the archives somewhere.

 

Because the BMNH was doing a survey of cyprinid hybrids at the time, and they were grateful for the specimens, there was a bonus. I got a conducted tour behind the scenes of the BMNH - was shown many strange fish. It was a real museum in those days.

 

Its a great pity that the BMNH has been "dumbed down" since.

Edited July 13, 2007 by Vagabond

[Peter Sharpe]

I looked at the first picture and thought it was probably a bog standard bream, but looking at the bottom one I agree that it is a rudd/bream hybrid.

[birdman]

Thanks guys.

 

Rudd/Bream may be right on the mark. Picture on camera phone, so not brilliant.The flank was golden but I had't heard of Rudd/Bream hybrid half as much as a Roach/Bream hybrid so never gave it a fault.

 

Thanks all,

 

It always a bonus to catch something different like this, keeps you going back.

[Kappa]

Is it just me that can see chub in that fish? I reckon its a bream chub hybrid...

[dant]

I can't really see the Chub in that fish Richard. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Chub/Bream hybrid.. Not one I've recognised at least...

[chalky632007]

I can't really see the Chub in that fish Richard. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Chub/Bream hybrid.. Not one I've recognised at least...

looks like a bream to me, nice fish all the same well done sir.

[Chris Goddard]

I looked at the first picture and thought it was probably a bog standard bream, but looking at the bottom one I agree that it is a rudd/bream hybrid.

 

Et Tu Peter?? And for me too.